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Venerdi 06 Novembre 2009 15:45:30

hi jack. thanks for writing this great freeware application. i'm a refugee from os 9 who used the cwm haxie and then dabbled in with asm...

as such, i'm not really interested in the menu function of multixfinder that much. i've resigned myself to keyboard commands for application switching over the years. my main concern is window management. i love that you have the functionality of classic window management in this program. i like all the windows of an application to come forward when i switch that application to the foreground. unfortunately for me, multixfinder only gives you this option when the application menu is functioning.

as i am very jealous of menu bar space, i would prefer to leave the application switcher menu off. however, when i turn it off with the checkbox in the preference pane, the window management reverts to the os standard and multixfinder rules no longer apply.

if you would make the application menu and the rules function work independently of each other that would be a nice plus for me.(sboing)
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Venerdi 06 Novembre 2009 16:23:16

Hi josh, welcome. :)

The classic window mode works thanks for some software that monitors the frontmost application and brings all its windows to front. Since the menu itself has to monitor which application is the frontmost it is a logical choice to delegate that function to it. Of course the same thing can theoretically be done by some sort of background daemon, I'll see what I can do.

For the moment, however, do you know that you can hide the application icon, put the menu itself to a minimum size (16 pixels is the minimum so far) and move it to the leftmost edge of the part of the menubar managed by SystemUIServer (most, but not all, the menus are). You can move SystemUIServer's menus by command-dragging them. Something like that might interest you:

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Lunedi 23 Novembre 2009 04:23:25

hi jack. thanks for the suggestion. yes, i did come across that option but it didn't save much space over leaving the icon. menu bar space is at a real premium for me. i don't really need the application switcher menu because i've habituated myself to the mac os x command tab keystroke for switching apps but the overlapping window thing still drives me crazy. jef raskin never would have approved that design. os x is getting cleaner but it still has a lot to learn form the classic os interface...

actually, i'm becoming fond of the little application icon sitting up on the menu bar so don't kill yourself putting the functionality i suggested into mulitxfinder. the main thing is that your software has been rock solid stable for me so far and god bless you for making it freeware. gratzi & ciao for now!
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Hi josh, welcome. :)

For the moment, however, do you know that you can hide the application icon, put the menu itself to a minimum size (16 pixels is the minimum so far) and move it to the leftmost edge of the part of the menubar managed by SystemUIServer (most, but not all, the menus are). You can move SystemUIServer's menus by command-dragging them. Something like that might interest you:
http://b3.s3.quickshareit.com/schermata20091106a1601pngb862b.png
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Lunedi 23 Novembre 2009 07:37:02

:)

You're welcome, of course…

By the way, after your post I examined the problem…multixfinder works as part of systeuiserver (apple's own menubar plugins manager) in every aspect, so to have any of the features it offers the menu needs to be loaded (it is of course possible to create a background daemon that offers the same functionalities, but that will mean a very big change of architecture).


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Venerdi 18 Giugno 2010 12:37:53

Hi. I echo my thanks for keeping OS9 window behaviour alive and well up through current OSX versions! I am still amazed that the UI gurus made this decision to just let windows pile up in OSX and then resort to all sorts of Exposé contortions to sort them out. In any case I also just discovered that it actually still is in OSX as a function: All you need to do is click the app's icon in the dock and all windows come to the front for that app, same for Finder of course. (I'm currently on 10.6.3 and 10.5.8 on various machines) You probably already knew that but just in case... I've been looking and reading forums for years around this topic and only this week found it mentioned. Maybe that is a different route to separating out the app menu and window function as mentioned above in this thread if you ever have the attention and desire for such a change. For what it might be worth.
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Venerdi 18 Giugno 2010 16:10:14

Hi ribenson, thanks.

Yes, a similar function always remained obtainable clicking on the icon in the dock or using the command-tab shortcut to switch application, however clicking directly on a window (or on to the desktop!) is often the fastest way to bring to front an application and some of us find that having all windows being brought in foreground at the same time is a better behavior the the current default one.


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